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3D Audio Podcast – Fresh trend for Audio Drama and Radio Play


    Increasingly popular in recent years, the podcast medium is part of everyday life for many in 2021. And the concept of an auditory information broadcast is anything but new – think radio broadcast. And now the 3D podcasting?

    There’s now a podcast on just about every topic, so there’s no need to worry about the supply of content. Fortunately, there is now new momentum with 3D Spatial Audio technology. Even for podcasts!

    Recently iHeartpodcast network creating a little hype with reports on engadget.com, gearnews.de and theverge.com. They have expanded production capabilities and have dozens of projects planned for this year.

    Will 3D audio now reach podcasts, radio and audio drama? Right now the topic is creating a buzz again with the Sony Playstation 5, Apple Airpods Pro and Samsung Galaxy Buds Pro. So let’s take a look at what binaural 3D sound means for platforms like Spotify, Soundcloud and others.


    • 2021: Merkelphone is now online, a radio drama I produced entirely in 3D audio with head-tracking. Find out what happenes in the home of world’s most powerful female
    • 2022: 3D podcast does not guarantee immersion. How does one recognize a good podcasting
    • 2023: Dolby Atmos is now supported by Audible. Why it’s not a good idea to mix audio plays with Dolby Atmos will follow shortly.

    Advantages of Spatial Sound for Podcasts

    It’s almost obvious that spatial audio is an asset to 3D podcasts: immersive audio content allows a new way for listeners to find themselves in the middle of the action, whether it’s an interview, a story, or a radio play. As in many other areas, 3D audio offers more possibilities in terms of storytelling, immersion, and conception. Time for this cutting edge technology to be played on the big screen?

    So much for the typical buzzwords of similar articles. But in this blog, we take it a step further. Time to analyze the true added value for 3D podcasts from a technical and creative perspective.

    Spatial narration and embodiment

    In classical radio plays, the listener is usually only a silent observer. You passively follow the action and are provided with additional information by an additional narrator. But with 3D Audio you have much more the impression to embody a part of the scene. The brain mentally creates a three-dimensional image of the scenery and thus understands where the protagonists are around you.

    With head tracking even more, but more about that world at the end of this blog post.

    Immersion – what does that mean?

    The fact that we can now arrange the sounds spatially makes it easier for the brain to process this information quickly. A so-called abstraction level falls away. In a podcast – which is classically produced in mono or stereo – we use headphones to localize the speaker: in our heads. But this contradicts our natural listening habits. If we meet with our friends – after Corona – we don’t hear their voices in our heads either, but listen and localize their talk in the room.

    This makes immersive audio games more pleasant to listen to in the long run, to put it simply. Because the brain is not constantly busy abstracting where the voices are to be spatially classified. This science phenomenon is increasingly known as Zoom Fatigue. If we have other voices in our heads all day, it is tiring. But if they are externalized, i.e. perceived outside our head, the problem seems to be solved.

    Who has something to say here?

    The use of a narrator’s voice as a voice-over can still offer added value at certain points. My Heat-Map Case Study has already shown that the combination of spatial soundtrack for protagonists and off-speakers in mono prevents confusion. This is because it provides an innovative way for consumers to understand whether a person is part of the scene and thus is more spatially locatable. Or whether it is a narrator’s voice depicting an in-head localization.

    3D Audio Podcast Overview

    In fact, iHeartpodcast network inc, one of the largest media companies in the U.S., has recognized that the benefits of spatial audio are the future. The company recently announced that it is starting to invest in this new kind of 3D binaural audio for its listeners. But other content productions are also increasingly jumping on this bandwagon – including yours truly for years:

    The following list is not exhaustive and will probably grow in the future. But with my colleagues from HearOn I have an ear on it. Update: I wrote an entire article with dozens of 3d podcasts right here.

    3D Audio Podcast is not an immersion guarantee

    Now I really don’t want to be the sound guy who always has to badmouth everything. But for me, it’s really about making people aware of the technology:

    If it says 3D audio on it, it doesn’t mean that 3D audio is in it!

    There are multiple questions to be asked: What is immersion and what is good immersion or bad immersion? It is always difficult to measure. You really have to pay attention and the consumers unfortunately have few possibilities to really differentiate. The only thing that helps is to listen carefully to a 3d podcast talk!

    How do you recognize good 3D audio?

    What you heard quite well in the WDR radio play is that the speakers played nicely, but for me, it doesn’t quite fit the soundscape. It’s as if the team recorded it in the studio – just like they did – and then added a 3D audio software effect afterward. Then they threw some reverb on top of it with virtual specializers that put the surround sound in the room. My complaint is that this is done so that the products can say “it’s a 3D audio radio play”.

    Of course, I pay a lot more attention to that, but I don’t find that software approach entirely believable. The actors just perform differently than if they were really in the screenplay. They can act or speak as well as they want. That’s why I’d be interested to hear what other listeners have to say about it.

    You can listen to the demo – in German – at Metaverse Podcast Episode 23 by Thomas Riedler.

    3D Audio Storytelling

    You have to be brave and go out of the studio sometimes that’s what makes it special. I have special technology and redundancy procedures for that ways. The whole concept has to tell itself in 3D audio as well. Otherwise, it just sounds as if you’ve moved 3D audio objects around quite randomly in post-production. If the storytelling would also work in stereo, it’s better to do the project in stereo. Here I've covered immersive storytelling with binaural audio, in detail.

    This knowledge is super important when it comes to setting virtual worlds to music.

    • How realistic do you want them to sound?
    • How believable do I want them to be?
    • And most importantly, how can I support the story with 3D audio technology?

    My approach does not only convince audio engineers, but even for normal people the difference is serious, as Thomas Riedler describes:

    “I also want to emphasize that again. The difference between these two examples was very clear: You use exclusive spatial audio technology and concepts. That’s why the world we just heard in this Traktor example sounds totally real. As if I were really in it. In this WDR radio play, you were somehow also there and felt emotionally moved somehow. But you notice that it seems so inserted into the room, that it doesn’t seem connected. Once you realize these differences in the video you just showed, it’s really striking!”

    But beware: It’s not that simple

    Those podcasts that already work with 3D audio do so mostly on the basis of binaural audio. This works well and is definitely better than normal stereo or even mono. But this is where most rookies fall right into the first trap without pushing the needle forward.

    Curse and blessing with stereo

    The playback platforms such as Podigee, Chimpify and Stitcher usually do not support more than two audio channels. But you must not make the mistake of thinking the 3d podcast production is stereo. This format can only be played back on headphones and is not suitable for loudspeakers for listeners. This unnecessarily restricts the target group and overlooks the future topics of smart speakers, soundbars, and automotive car hi-fi.

    In addition, there is no possibility of later personalization. The algorithms that generate the three-dimensional surround sound for the human ears (keyword HRTF) are generic. That is, the calculation is based on the mathematical average of our head size and ear shape. In the future, our individual parameters will be taken into account during playback. As is already the case today with the Sony WH-1000XM4, for example.

    This is how professional 3D audio production works

    The challenges mentioned above can be overcome with the right partner. In addition, there is science for the next wow effect with Next Generation Audio. In the meantime, Apple or Samsung, for example, offer the head-tracking enabled headphones already mentioned.
    But what is the added value? In combination with audio content that is produced on an object basis, listeners even have the experience of moving around the sound scene. So the whole spatial sound sphere is adapting to the head movement just like in real life. This takes the audio experience to the next level and is creating an absolutely unique selling point, also for podcasts.

    And if we are already naming loud buzzwords here anyway. This is sustainable knowledge. In fact, at the team VRTonung, we can ensure that productions are future-proofed to serve other media with the advent of soundbars and smart speakers.
    We can find out how this can be implemented for your next project during a free consultation together. Looking forward to it.

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